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	<title>Comments on: Homeopathic doses of knowledge</title>
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	<description>&#34;A beer and some convo&#34;</description>
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		<title>By: LP</title>
		<link>http://www.monkeyjuggler.net/meanderings/2010/02/01/homeopathic-doses-of-knowledge/comment-page-1/#comment-12141</link>
		<dc:creator>LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just struck me that the &quot;do not overdose&quot; warnings are really there because of the risk of developing diabetes from regularly ingesting that much sugar ;-)

Agreed on the public confusion stuff, herbal remedies can often work (hop pillows being a marvelous example) and it&#039;s a pity the homeopathy nonsense gets lumped in with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just struck me that the &#8220;do not overdose&#8221; warnings are really there because of the risk of developing diabetes from regularly ingesting that much sugar <img src='http://www.monkeyjuggler.net/meanderings/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Agreed on the public confusion stuff, herbal remedies can often work (hop pillows being a marvelous example) and it&#8217;s a pity the homeopathy nonsense gets lumped in with it.</p>
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		<title>By: alby</title>
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		<dc:creator>alby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh sorry forgot something.  I agree with you.  An alarmingly off-base stunt but they will argue that the bottles have &quot;do not overdose&quot; warnings on them.

My main problem with the whole affair is the people who assume &quot;homeopathy&quot; just means &quot;natural therapy&quot; rather than the very specific form of nonsense it is.  That and the myopia about &quot;big-pharma&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh sorry forgot something.  I agree with you.  An alarmingly off-base stunt but they will argue that the bottles have &#8220;do not overdose&#8221; warnings on them.</p>
<p>My main problem with the whole affair is the people who assume &#8220;homeopathy&#8221; just means &#8220;natural therapy&#8221; rather than the very specific form of nonsense it is.  That and the myopia about &#8220;big-pharma&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: alby</title>
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		<dc:creator>alby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy who started the Leicester branch of Skeptics in the Pub writes a column for our local paper.  Apparently his next one tomorrow is on this topic.  I&#039;m intrigued to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy who started the Leicester branch of Skeptics in the Pub writes a column for our local paper.  Apparently his next one tomorrow is on this topic.  I&#8217;m intrigued to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: LP</title>
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		<dc:creator>LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;you can&#039;t overdose on it, and that&#039;s a good thing&quot; response is exactly why I first groaned when I heard about the current campaign.

It&#039;s also why when a member of the skeptic society behind it said to me &quot;keep an eye on us, we&#039;ve got something big planned&quot; I said to him &quot;I hope it&#039;s not some kind of lame mass overdose stunt&quot;

&quot;See! You can&#039;t overdose on it, therefore it clearly doesn&#039;t work for it&#039;s intended purpose of curing you&quot; just isn&#039;t a logical argument.  

You can&#039;t meaningfully overdose on fruit and veg, but fruit and veg is good for you.  All it shows is that taking homeopathic remedies doesn&#039;t kill you. (And really people, it doesn&#039;t. Taking it instead of real medical treatment might well though.)

The &quot;mass overdose&quot; stunt also betrays a complete disregard for the way that homeopathy &quot;works&quot;.  It ignores the &quot;the more you dilute it, the more effect it has&quot; principal.  To truly overdose on homeopathic medicine, you&#039;d need to take less of it, not more.

I very much agree with the principals of the anti-homeopathy mob, as homeopathy is quite clearly snake oil - however, the way they&#039;re going about it makes them look like they haven&#039;t thought the campaign at all.  

If anything, they appear to have put in *less* thought than the pro-homeopathy mob.

I do hope they&#039;ve got a more convincing plan for their next stunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;you can&#8217;t overdose on it, and that&#8217;s a good thing&#8221; response is exactly why I first groaned when I heard about the current campaign.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also why when a member of the skeptic society behind it said to me &#8220;keep an eye on us, we&#8217;ve got something big planned&#8221; I said to him &#8220;I hope it&#8217;s not some kind of lame mass overdose stunt&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;See! You can&#8217;t overdose on it, therefore it clearly doesn&#8217;t work for it&#8217;s intended purpose of curing you&#8221; just isn&#8217;t a logical argument.  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t meaningfully overdose on fruit and veg, but fruit and veg is good for you.  All it shows is that taking homeopathic remedies doesn&#8217;t kill you. (And really people, it doesn&#8217;t. Taking it instead of real medical treatment might well though.)</p>
<p>The &#8220;mass overdose&#8221; stunt also betrays a complete disregard for the way that homeopathy &#8220;works&#8221;.  It ignores the &#8220;the more you dilute it, the more effect it has&#8221; principal.  To truly overdose on homeopathic medicine, you&#8217;d need to take less of it, not more.</p>
<p>I very much agree with the principals of the anti-homeopathy mob, as homeopathy is quite clearly snake oil &#8211; however, the way they&#8217;re going about it makes them look like they haven&#8217;t thought the campaign at all.  </p>
<p>If anything, they appear to have put in *less* thought than the pro-homeopathy mob.</p>
<p>I do hope they&#8217;ve got a more convincing plan for their next stunt.</p>
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